Posts by Why Georgia

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TRUST Poll...UBM'S I'm asking you

by jgnat in

this is the third poll in a series to the "unbelieving mates" (ubm's) community here on jwd.

4. does your partner trust you?

5. do you trust your partner?

Why Georgia

A few have mentioned wondering how their JW mate would deal with things if they needed blood.

I have sent a legal document to all the hospitals in my area saying that I will take blood and that my children will take blood. My husband knows that I make all the medical decisions for our children.

This is not only because of his religion but because I have a medical background and understand these things better than him.

I also sent a legal document to my parents stating what my wishes are for myself and my children in the event that I am no longer alive so they will have this to help protect my children if I cannot.

I have explained repeatedly to my husband how traumas work and if a person has lost blood volume they don't have the time to wait for saline and other things to build up their blood volume again. The argument is basically lost on him because he has been spoonfed the JW beliefs since birth and this brainwashing overrides common sense.

WG

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Another wacky ebay auction!

by Why Georgia in

this little girl is auctioning off her imaginary friend so she can go to france!

definately a change from a lemonade stand or selling candy bars!.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=5633412401&category=88433.

Why Georgia

This little girl is auctioning off her imaginary friend so she can go to France!

Definately a change from a lemonade stand or selling candy bars!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=5633412401&Category=88433

What do you think?

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NaPoLeOn DyNaMiTe.......who liked it?

by freedomlover in

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anybody else love this movie as much as i did??

i think it says a lot about the type of person you are, or at least what kind of sense of humor you have, if you liked this movie or hated it.. so far, i've not met anyone who has been neutral on this movie - usually they either love it or hated it!

Why Georgia

My mother actually watched this movie with her best friends kids when she was babysitting and called me and told me I had to watch it ASAP.

I thought it was so funny and he reminded me too much of a couple of boys I knew in school.

I don't really get the marketing campaign behind the movie....they are selling shirts that say "Vote for Pedro" in the little boys section at Target. My 5 year old hasn't seen the movie and certainly doesn't get "it"

But I do think the John Huges movies of my generation...16 candles, better off dead, breakfast club still reign supreme!

WG

56

I NEED YOUR INPUT ON THIS ASAP..

by Mary in

jw
friends

ok, i got a call tonight from an old friend i knew years ago when i lived in another city.

i haven't seen him for 18 years although we have had occassional contact.

he's coming in to toronto next week and wants to know if we can get together to catch up.

Why Georgia

Mary,

My very good friend lives 3500 miles away from me and I see her once a year...so the miles apart doesn't really mean anything to me.

I'd just go if it were me. If he doesn't want to be your friend because you don't believe as he does then its really his loss. To me, it would be like saying I'm sorry I can't be your friend because your a Democrat and I'm a Republican....silly. Especially if you're both good people.

As I said in my post before, if he started talking about the society...I'd say something like I know all about that..I can read that or hear about it at the meetings...How are you doing? Tell me how you and _____ are doing? How are the kidlets? How's work?

If he asks you directly about your beliefs, I'd tell him that is between you and Jehovah God and you don't feel comfortable speaking to him because you know him so well...you'd rather speak to someone more impersonal....etc.

Go....you'll feel badly if you don't.

WG

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I NEED YOUR INPUT ON THIS ASAP..

by Mary in

jw
friends

ok, i got a call tonight from an old friend i knew years ago when i lived in another city.

i haven't seen him for 18 years although we have had occassional contact.

he's coming in to toronto next week and wants to know if we can get together to catch up.

Why Georgia

Hi Mary,

Let me just say this...How spiritual are the Elders really? A lot of them are worse people than the regular rank & file....You didn't mention a lot of things that would help us help you...Was he made an Elder because there aren't a lot of men in the Congregation, is he super pious, was it his turn to swing the mike?

How often do you communicate with this person? Is it a few times a year? Is it by phone? Is it emails or letters? How personal is this relationship? Does this person have regular contact with people you know or are related to that are witnesses?

I know you've said you were good friends 18 years ago...but that was a long time ago and people change. I know I am not the same person I was that long ago.

It may just be him touching bases with someone he had a great friendship with 18 years ago...but then again it could be a fishing expedition. - sex, information, etc..you name it!

Also, I don't know if you mentioned if his wife knows he will be meeting you. If she knows then great! But if she doesn't know then why doesn't she know?

I would ask him what are you hoping to get out of this visit? If you were such good friends why hasn't he seen you in 18 years?

I'm sorry I am so suspicious...its my nature.

Also, you could just go and fly by the seat of your pants...When and if he starts talking about JW stuff...you could say...Friend - I know all about the JW/WTS/Awake - I want to know how my friend is doing....and that should shut down any religious talk.

WG

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I got a nice surprise yesterday...

by Mastodon in

jw
friends

my wife and i started fading about 2 1/2 years ago, but for different reasons.

she had noticed the lack of love and justice in the congregations, even experienced some firsthand and the abusive conduct of elders against the r&f.

on the other side, i was starting my research on the wt and had pretty much decided i didn't want any part in the borg.

Why Georgia

Congratulations!

That is wonderful news! It's wonderful your wife was so open to your research when you decided to leave the WTS.

I hope you all have fun preparing for your Christmas celebration!

WG

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So, how was your week-end?

by JH in

jw
friends

yesterday, i had to change a faucet, and remove an old carpet in the living room.

that carpet was about 25 years old.

you should have seen the dust under that carpet that i had to pick up.

Why Georgia

Saturday we worked on the house and the truck & car - oil changes, flush the cooling system etc...I made fudge, rice crispy treats, peanut brittle and chocolate chip cookies.

Trying out some new recipes for the Christmas treats I will be giving a lot of our friends.

On Sunday we took the boys to the Mystic Aquarium. I love the Beluga Whales they are so beautiful!

WG

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Is it Sad....

by Jordan in

jw
friends

is it sad that i can't be bothered to go out on a saturday night?

i'm shattered after work, i've been working at uni practically non stop through the week (with the exception of a couple of visits to the pub), and i worked 5-10 last night, and 9-6 today, i'm such a weak person.

lol.

Why Georgia

Lola,
What part of California are you from ? - I was from Northern. I lived there my whole life until moving here to the arctic tundra of Massachusetts....

Why are you changing halls?

Sorry I'm nosy...

WG

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Elders, perfect kind men who should be respected.

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i know some former witnesses away from the board and when we have talked, we have commented on how we still see people put elders in this category, even after the exit.

once in a discussion with someone who used to be an elder, the person who used to be an elder did something kind of harsh in their comments.

the person in the group stated, "there is no way someone like you would have ever been an elder.

Why Georgia

I agree with Mrs. Jones completely. Once I hear someone is or even was an elder...I don't respect them at all.

It means they are trained to weasel out information, set traps and wreak havoc...I don't want them near me at all.

I have only met 2 very nice and sincere elders...and if they weren't from long lines of JW's they probably would have never made it to the position they are in...

WG - of the love to yell at Elders and feed their balls to my dog class!

30

TRUST Poll...UBM'S I'm asking you

by jgnat in

this is the third poll in a series to the "unbelieving mates" (ubm's) community here on jwd.

4. does your partner trust you?

5. do you trust your partner?

Why Georgia

1. On a scale of one to ten, one being the lowest, how do you rate the importance of trust in your relationship?

Trust is a is more than a 10 in our relationship. I have health issues and I need to know he's there for me and the boys if I need him. I try not to need him or take advantage - but I need to know he'll respect my wishes and be available mentally and physically.

2. One to ten, intimacy?

I would rate this one a 6 or 7.

3. One to ten, honesty?

This is the most important...if I felt he lied to me about a major thing - I would probably not be able to be with him because we agreed in the beginning to be honest even if it hurts.

4. Does your partner trust you? Why?

My husband knows I've got his back. If someone tried to hurt him or betray him...don't watch out for him...watch out for me. He knows pretty much how I'll react in all situations and he knows my moral code.

5. Do you trust your partner? Why?

I trust him because he has proven himself. He says what he means and means what he says. I may not always like what he has to say but he's honest and moral.

6. What does it take for your trust to rebuild? Is it time? Certain actions of your partner?

A lot of time...You've heard the sayings an Elephant never forgets...and neither does the mob..LOL! That's me..He would have to be truly repentant and not ever do the same thing again. Ever...not even think about doing it...and if I bring it up, he must be completely repentant again...and not ever say...Get over it!

7. For you, what is the ultimate trust-breaker? That is, if your partner betrayed you on this, you could not rebuild your trust?

If he cheated on me...it'd be over or brought pornography into our home and was watching it secretly. Over. If he lied to me about something and it had to do with the WTS...over. If he went back to the Truth...over. If he started using illegal drugs...over.

8. Has your partner ever told you that you must adjust your attitude and forgive them?

Yes....of course. I'll let you know when I've done that...LOL!

9. Has your partner ever diminished your feelings of betrayal, for example, saying it's not such a big deal?

Yes, I don't think he'll be saying that again anytime soon.

10. Anything else to add? (My favorite question)

Trust is a very big issue in the divided religious household. I have had 3 major surgeries and some illnesses since my husband and I have been married. I had to trust him that he would follow my instructions against his religious beliefs. That's a big thing. But in the same regard, I have to do the same if he's ever in that situation. And we were in that situation this summer. I watched him say no to blood products while having surgery. While I completely disagree with this, its his life and his decision to make.

Also, I have to trust that he will take mine and our children's lives into consideration for all decisions he will make. This is the same in every family...but even more so in ours because it's always in the back of mine and his mind...especially with a pushy mother in law...that he may go back to the JW's.